and i know that's true in ohio and michigan, states like that. we've got another person here, colin. thank you for joining us. this -- you were at virginia tech. you were a survivor down there. and i'm glad you were. here you are. but a lot of people in the gun ownership side, the second amendment people who are zealots, say if a bunch of people have guns they can shoot this guy down when he walked in the door. i can imagine what will be heard in the days ahead. if some of those school officials had been armed they could have stopped him before he got to the kids. you'll be hearing that argument. your thoughts on that. >> you'll be hearing it, but i don't quite understand it. we are the most armed country in the modern world. and we have the most problems with gun violence. if more guns solved our problems, then you know, we'd be the safest country already. that's not it. i mean, the conversation that we're having now, the conversation that the vast majority of americans are having is the reasonable middle ground. is the background checks on all